Hoy viptormx inaugurates the new Free Tribune section with a controversial issue that has already been discussed here. These are the problems that arise with references and as on many occasions big blogs engulf small ones due to its wide audience.
Lor that comes next is an article made by viptormx de fool! and the fact of being published here does not necessarily mean that you agree in whole or in part with what is expressed in it. I reserve my opinion to discuss with you in the comments.
I am half tired to tell stories, but I hope this one awakens your emotion and moves you to the virtual climax; it will be worth reading it and spreading it on the roads and peoples of the world; and if you don't, don't worry, having read it will be enough. This is how the events happened:
1.- Lacrax, by The Web - Blogger Tips, verbatim leave this message, "Help wanted to publish posts about technology"; Isofacto I sign up to release the "pang" of writing geek things -hehe- and I leave a comment; after a while I am already added as a collaborator on the blog, with the ease it provides Blogger.
2.- I publish my first two geek notes: December 3: «25 high tech mouse for this Christmas» -inspired by sizlopedia- and December 4: Explode your iPod! -inspired by LifeHacker. Both were replicated from their "original" source; after I published them, the first one I honestly don't remember where -and at 00:35 am I don't feel like searching- and the second one for Alt1040. Looking at them, I was just able to say (internally): Hey, I beat them!
3.- I read on December 5 at Online tech tips (OTT) an article titled "How to send secure encrypted email for free", (without mentioning "via"), which after reading it I found it interesting to use and review it for The Web ... with the title "Lockbin: for those" mysterious "times". Again I am surprised and puffed up to beat LifeHacker because I find the same OTT article published by them a day later as "Send encrypted emails easly whith Lockbin", only via MakeUseOf.com (MUO), but dated December 4th! and also without mentioning "via", which makes me think OTT copied them, but it is also possible that both have received an email from the developers to test the service; After reviewing, I discover that the MUO post is an OTT pinbak, but the latter did not bother to quote them verbatim.
4.- But the last straw comes when today, DECEMBER 7, Engadget also publish the news "Lockbin, sending secure and private emails"Via TwoBit (who posted it on Dec 5), via Tech News that published also that day. These last they do not mention via and also, if it wasn't enough, include the same MakeUseOf image. I want to think that as a result of the appearance in Genbeta, the note will be replicated in other Spanish-speaking sites, but so far - December 7 at 1:12 am - it has not happened. (Update: that same day, ArturoGiga also replicates the news taking it from Genbeta, and, 6 days after MUO, spamloco it does too).
Before jumping to hasty conclusions - if it is worth doing - I present a "brief" family tree of the news in question and a ranking analysis of its replicators:
After the previous 4 points, the two graphics and the bunch of links, I humbly conclude:
- - That there is new material every day, but there is a large number of replicators thereof.
- . That it is not reprehensible to replicate the news, the reprehensible thing is not to cite the source where you got it from.
- - That the big blogs end up being more protagonists of the repercussion of a news than even those that originated it, but their Note cannibalism it has brought them to the place they occupy.
- - That a small blog has the same opportunities to be a "primary source" for others who are used to reading it than a large blog.
5.- What Tech News is not an ethical source to "take" news because they do not cite their sources and dedicate themselves to copying and pasting, although they are among the first in the Hispanic copypaste link - it is even an excellent geek news repository because nobody takes care of leaving comments on the entries .-
And therefore, with greater humility i recommend you:
- a.- If you want to be informed, read MakeUsOf ...
- b.- If you want to be cool, read Tech News ...
- c.- If you want to find out last, read Genbeta ...
luck!
PS1.- HONOR TO WHOM HONOR IS DUE.- doing an obsessive tracking of the news, I discover that the first reference that there is in the web of this service is in webtools on October 18… yes, almost 2 months ago. And who had the scoop to castilianize the matter was Punto Geek, 4 days later.
PS2.- What is positioning! If you type in your Google "Lockbin" you will discover that the first page thrown is, of course, that of the service, but the second is… you guessed right !, Genbeta. Punto Geek is in a not inconsiderable 5th place after Dosbit and, you got it right again, ArturoGoga.
Bwell this was the opinion of viptormxI hope that in the comments you will show if you disagree with him or fully or partially share his reasoning. You already know that you have a space to show your discontent or denounce any unfortunate experience related to the blogosphere. Vineyard greetings.
Hello Vinegar, I have been following your blog recently, I find it very interesting, but this entry takes the prize.
The truth is that I like that someone tells what happens sometimes, look, it's not for nothing, but there is a blog from Ajaxhispano (it is .com without the script), which links it to Ajaxian, however I don't see anything interesting that it doesn't find in another, and google appears in 7 place and my blog appears in 12 place, but I have some good manuals (I think) that do contribute a lot.
And another thing, when I see later posts from several blogs, which never mention a single reference, is this valid?
things can be said without citing sources when one is not a researcher.
Thank you for allowing me to vent Vinegar greetings.
What a good article. Very good trace of the news, great.
The name of the blog made me laugh all morning. Excellent!!
We read ..
I also think that victormx is right, the subject is very interesting and there are many examples.
When I commented on what you say in Kabytes, I was thinking about that post where I was quoting MakeUseOf and it was like he was contradicting me ... but hey, it happened like that, it was all coincidence. The issue is when it becomes a daily habit ... there it becomes something more suspicious.
A greeting.
Why would you delete my comment?
What you say is very true, there are many people talking about the same thing and the greats play with an advantage.
Ajaxman it is inevitable today that there are people who constantly post without citing sources. I'm glad you decided to comment and you have a blog with a lot of content, maybe you should learn more SEO techniques to take advantage of it and position yourself better. All the best.
SpamLoco there is your clarification, the truth is that curiously yesterday I read your comment, I do not remember now in which blog, where you defended that an American source should not be linked to seem more "cool" (I do not remember your expression, sorry) when it is read the news in Spanish. It caught my attention because victormx mentioned you in the article and it happened that you were linking to a foreign source when days before several blogs in Spanish had published the same thing.
I hope you do not misunderstand me, I simply say that it caught my attention by chance, it is more I thought you actually read it in English.
I believe that victormx is right at heart, but perhaps he has not chosen the examples well because there is a lack of evidence that reliably demonstrates who copied whom, if there was a copy.
Thank you both for expressing your opinions. All the best.
The truth is that I do not understand much about the subject, because I am quite new to this and I do not have a blog for many people to read, but I have one to have it, period.
I think you always have to put the source from which you get things, because it is what corresponds to give credit to the one who wrote it, or to the one who took the time to translate it, and see if the place from which you get it refers to another or die there. If it dies there, it is a matter of putting a phrase in the text in a couple of search engines to see if we get it from an original source or someone who copypastes, and finally clarify in our sources or put more than one source ...
This especially, if like me, you just put an article because you liked it and you don't analyze the content or anything in the article too much. Like I always copy songs and poems known to everyone, so even though I don't cite sources, everyone knows that I didn't write it by chance ^^
Just as I told you, here in Argentina everything is so green that I think those things are not even considered ^^
greetings, little flower = D
There is your opinion flower girl. All the best.